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November 15, 2006

Extinct Breeds

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If you flip through old photos, you might be lucky enough to run into this now-extinct "long horse". It was strong, handsome and could carry up to four people at one time but, because of overwork, the horses tended to die young and, to put it bluntly, the population was eventually used to death.

A substantial collection of long horse photos, curated by Hardy Burmeier, is now on display.

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Definitive proof that this is B.S. at its worst: The print reproduced above of the white horse leaping is titled "Neapolitana Santuzza in der Ballotade an der Hand" on the "exhibit" web site. Any horseperson who knows two wits about the Lippizzan breed would recognize that the Ballotade is one of the "airs above the ground" that are performed uniquely by Lippizans, which are a very tightly controlled breed in terms of the studbook, and that the name Neapolitana Santuzza means that the horse in the photo was descended from the Lippizzan stallion Neapolitano. Considering the extremely strict breeding standards of the Lippizzan breeding program (which only recognize EIGHT foundational stallions), if there were truly such a thing as a Lippizzan longhorse, it would certainly occur more often in the Lippizzan breed and we'd all know about it.

As if that weren't damning enough, any horseperson will tell you that a long-backed horse (of the real kind) is extremely prone to back soreness, swayback, and inability to use its hindquarters effectively. The odds of such a horse making an effective battle horse, jumping horse, or dressage horse are laughable. The odds that such a horse could perform a
Ballotade? Even MORE laughable. That particular move is taught only to some of the shortest-backed Lippizaners out there because it requires such a huge amount of thrust through the hindquarters.

Pure B.S.

Posted by: Jen | Dec 2, 2006 10:23:23 AM

I know this is a post about long horses, but someone upthread mentioned so-called "munchkin cats." The munchkin cat is HOAX, people! This has been debunked numerous times. The hoax was perpetuated by PETA in order to discredit catteries developing legitimate breeds such as the Sphynx and the Scottish Fold.

See http://www.en.wikipedia.org/peta#munchkin%20cat%20hoax

Posted by: HP | Dec 2, 2006 10:23:50 AM

So sad these self-appointed "experts" on horse history are so quick to dismiss. It just shows how effective King William's scheme was. How does one get such an ego to believe that "Since I never heard of it, it's untrue." This post has inspired me to go over my grandmother's personal items and family history to see if I can find anything about her long horse.

Posted by: fsg | Dec 2, 2006 10:27:32 AM

While I really _want_ to believe that this is real, one thing that makes me suspicious is that in the following photo, there is also a stretched out dog that looks like a German shepherd. Great photoshop skills!

http://www.digital-art.org/D/Portraits/Burmeier/Bilder/LouisKasachischerKaltbl.jpg

Posted by: Matt | Dec 2, 2006 10:52:30 AM

I WANT TO BELIVE!

Posted by: boomer | Dec 2, 2006 11:28:35 AM

A couple of citations, in addition to the images:
Moeller, Klaus-Heinrich. Das Langpferd und seinen Verwandter: Zoologische Beschreibung und Klassifierung. (Ulm: Akademisches Verlag Heinz Birkinau, 1876).
(Out of print and hard to find, but the University library in Uqbar has at least one copy (special collections) according to WorldCat. Looks like this is the standard scientific text on them.


Valkenier, Stijn. Langepaarden in de zeventiende-eeuwse toneelkunst ende spektakel (Leuven: Lipsius Druckgrafiek, 1901).

(another out of print work: De Slegte has a couple of copies)

Gadamer, Christian Aloisius, S.J. Travels on a Long-Horse through Saxony and Thuringia: A memoir of a traditional Wilsnack pilgrimage. (St Crispins Press, London, 1926) (Looks like this is an English translation of a 1924 German pub, "Pilgerfahrt auf'm Langepferd..." Munchen: Gebroeders Tlön A.G.)

My dad gave this one to me-- something he had as a teenager. It's a bit dry but at the beginning when the friar gets the horse before he leaves Cologne he launches into a long and tedious description of the breed and its history in Germany, at least (pages 19-32)

Posted by: Mitzi | Dec 2, 2006 11:44:50 AM

While it's possible these particular photos may have been manipulated, the long horse itself is a real breed. My grandmother used to raise them on her farm and they are very sweet and gentle creatures. We were not allowed to ride them because of their likelihood of developing back problems (as described above), riding was thought to exacerbate this tendency.

It's a shame that so few people remember them (there were never that many to begin with) that they are imagined to be a hoax. I guess that's what happens when a species goes extinct before the development of the internet -- people assume that just because they can't find info about them on the web, they must not be real!

There's a book called "Long Horse: The Rise and Fall of Man's Longest Running Friendship" or something like that in the garage somewhere that has lots of information. Maybe I'll scan some of it if I can figure out what box it's in.

Posted by: GG | Dec 2, 2006 11:48:37 AM

GG-- OMG, I remember that book! My elementary school library had it (this was like late 70s)-- I remember the one picture of the huge horse on the little ferryboat and that old man with the clogs trying not to fall over. So funny.

Posted by: Charlotte | Dec 2, 2006 12:08:13 PM

JOIN THE ILHBA

As a initiate to the International Long Horse Breeders Association (ILHBA) I do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the following rules:

1. Before I die, I will go forth on a two-year mission to seek out a sample of long horse DNA for the purposes of cloning a long horse in order to repopulate the planet with these magnificent animals.

2. When long horses once again grace our planet in abundant numbers, I will follow strict guidelines regarding their humane treatment, especially the one stipulating the limitation of strapping on one saddle per linear 18 inches of long horse.

3. Unless I am a bona-fide member of the ILHBA Lamarck Research Laboratory (LRL), I will not attempt to create a long horse by stretching an ordinary horse.

4. I will report any instance of a ILHBA member attempting to pass off a dachshund as a "miniature long horse."

Posted by: Mark Frauenfelder | Dec 2, 2006 2:13:17 PM

Compare these two images:

http://www.digital-art.org/D/Portraits/Burmeier/Bilder/LouisToomany.jpg

http://faculty.smu.edu/sweisenb/Incidents%20of%20the%20War%20(Gettysburg).gif

Looks like Photoshop to me...at least on this one.

Posted by: Jeff | Dec 2, 2006 3:30:12 PM

My Grandfather once owned an amusement park where they employed long horsemen to shuttle things around the park. Beer, hotdogs, he remembers even using one once as a stretcher when one of his visitors got injured on the dodgems. They where as friendly as manatees and quite smart if I recall. It's so sad the breed has died off.

Posted by: citybuddha | Dec 2, 2006 3:48:16 PM

These animals have existed since ancient times. Here is just one example, there are many others, of English hillside chalk carvings depicting them. Many are very old indeed, none less than several hundred years, but they are still regularly maintained by their devotees.

How can you doubt this ancient evidence?

Posted by: Slarty | Dec 2, 2006 3:58:01 PM

There's such an outpouring of affection for the long horse. I find it touching. The only thing that's painful to me is this those that continue to participate in this obvious "non-long horse" conspiracy, while proof abounds.

And I didn't know there was a breeders association!

Posted by: robyn | Dec 2, 2006 4:15:51 PM

By the way, I just blogged another something about the long horse and this conspiracy... I hope we can all pull together on this. (A number of reader's comments are included in the post).

Posted by: robyn | Dec 2, 2006 4:17:56 PM

As I stated in my earlier comment here (#9), they do exist and Wikipedia now finally seconds that. So, unbelievers, will you finally relent or must you first step into long horse poop to see?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Horse

Posted by: Nils | Dec 2, 2006 4:20:43 PM

nils,
you are my hero! I took a screen shot... to remember.

Posted by: robyn | Dec 2, 2006 4:26:02 PM

I think we showed the long horse heretics that their non beliefs in what they consider a crypto-equestria has been the life lie of their life.
Really....as I live and breathe

Posted by: citybuddha | Dec 2, 2006 7:08:35 PM

I love how the longhorse has been present at every major event in world history from 1880-1929 like Forrest Gump.

Posted by: gerbilfuckah | Dec 2, 2006 8:06:22 PM

The KKK took my long horsey away... they took him away... away from me....

Posted by: Cowicide | Dec 2, 2006 8:28:21 PM

This whole thread must be a tribute to the 90% idiot population out there that can't use 10% of their brains. The artist was born in 1971.

http://www.digital-art.org/E/Portraits/Burmeier/Burmeier.html

Posted by: FrankenPengie | Dec 2, 2006 10:18:37 PM

With all the hubbub about the longhorse, everyone's forgetting about this poor guy:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/doplgangr//short-horse.gif

Posted by: uninvited guest | Dec 2, 2006 10:21:21 PM

FrankenPengie... the voice of reason. Ignorance will be the greatest downfall of humanity. And the 90% will be bringers of destruction; crosses in hand.

Posted by: spooty | Dec 3, 2006 12:00:21 AM

someone fire that Photoshop artist.....

Posted by: me | Dec 3, 2006 12:35:05 AM

I'm trying to wrap my head around why people post a "but the person (posting) these was born in 71" has anything to do with authenticity. Or the Photoshop argument as it'd be just as easy to make a long horse look like a short (more common known length today) horse which, c'mon people, the reason people obviously have Photoshopped the horse back to shorter lengths is so those pictures can sell, the pictures were altered from the long horse to something that looks shorter because people want to forget. And why shouldn't they? The long horse in it's day was exploited, often by bad people like the KKK and Nazis. Not to mention they died out like the Dodo, Carrier Pigeon, and other breeds because of mankind's meddling. Do we really want to remember the tragedies that befall these and other animals? Of course we don't. I'm just glad this site had the guts to post these original pictures of such a majestic beasts. Now everyone stop bitching about what you don't know about. Le cheval de bout droit est mort, vive le cheval de bout droit!

Posted by: Dr. Philip Hasbro | Dec 3, 2006 4:50:35 AM

Thanks, Dr. Hasbro. I posted some photos and painted some paintings of Paris and the surrounding area pre-World War II. By some people's standards, I suppose the photos are manipulated and the paintings not of real building because I wasn't born until long after WWII.

"WAhhh. None of the sources of my existing knowledge mention this topic so it must be untrue as I certainly have a firm grasp on all existing knowledge."

Some of you doubters are so insecure as is evident in the firmness of your belief in your extremely weak an illogical arguments.

Posted by: fsg | Dec 3, 2006 5:24:39 AM

Dear Uninvited,

I, too, was wondering why no one mentioned the "das kleine kleine Pferd" I saw in my youth. I think it's relevant to this discussion, because if there's one kind of obscure, unusual horse that no one's heard of, then there's the possibility of another kind, or even three or four.

I remember the special saddle used for the "das kleine kleine Pferd" -- and riding them at my uncle's farm in Hamburg. They were quite difficult to balance on, and often both horse and rider ended in the dust.

Posted by: little rider | Dec 3, 2006 7:39:59 AM

It is so sad to see people questioning the prior existence of the once humble and marvellous Long Horse. This sadness can only be equalled by its pitiful extinction, ironically also caused by the failure of people to believe in and fully realise the potentional of a once magnificent beast.

As for proof, should it really further be needed, then I recommend any naysayers visit the National Quadruped Society's headquarters in London. Here one can peruse a fine array of equine taxidermy and skeletons. At the centre of the Ungulate Room (on the second floor) there is not only a fully taxidermied stallion LOng Horse but also a pair of foals and about six skeletons.

For further reference one could also visit the library (in the basement) and examine the vast resource of etchings, silhouettes, portraits, documentation etc.

On the way out why not pass through the giftshop where, for a modest sum, one can purhase prints of aforementioned etchings as well as genuine Long Horse teeth, hair, hoof ash trays etc.

Admittance to the National Quadruped Society HQ is free to all members of the Royal Horse Club.

Posted by: Mister Oats | Dec 3, 2006 9:17:23 AM

This forum fails to mention the significance of our discussion. As a digital artist, I can admire the effort it took to render these horses in historical photographs as "long." This whole debate brings in to question the mantra "I'll believe it when I see it." What is real? Now that I take a NASA Photograph, and Photoshop in a mountain from New Mexico, can I prove that we didn't land on the moon? Hardy Burmeier is a digital artist, emphasis on the artist part, and these prints are being shown in a gallery as art. So, If you think of it in terms of artist and audience, do you get it? One more thing, imagine all the effort it took to continually post testimonials from people who knew a long horse decades ago. A lot of effort went into this hoax, so appreciate it.
P.S. Don't believe Mark Twain on anything, that wasn't even his real name! ha.

Posted by: Christopher Thompson | Dec 3, 2006 9:32:10 AM

would they have a huge dick as well?

Posted by: hurndog | Dec 3, 2006 11:07:36 AM

But I am under the impression that the digital artistry in question is the way he restored the originals (of the long horses) as surely they were very nearly destroyed. It's clear how many were faked over the years to change the long horses to the more conventional type.

Posted by: testsicles | Dec 3, 2006 12:06:31 PM

I am a rancher/breeder in the Southern Sierras of California and I can assure you that longhorse crosses are not only still with us, but a thriving and very popular breed up here.

My Arab/Icelandic longhorses have consistently finished in the top ten of both EHRA and AERC 100 mile endurance competitions, and are remarkably hardy and sweet-natured animals well-suited to the rigors of intense distance racing...so much so that they are frequently cited as top in overall conditioning. Although they are at a slight disadvantage on tight mountain trails and hairpin switchbacks, their extraordinary flexibility more than compensates for their extreme length.

I credit my success as an endurance racer to the longhorse's ability to carry all my extra tack, feed, and supplies in a custom cantle saddle-thereby eliminating the need for either a crew or unscheduled resupply stops along the route.

I also think it worth mentioning that the "hinged" vertebra in the longhorse's spine allows for a cheetah-like canter which although disconcerting at first, is soon second nature for the seasoned rider. When properly developed this gait adds 5-7 mph in overall speed to the pace. I am pleased to offer a few of these delightful horses for sale every season to qualified owners. Please feel free to contact me.

Posted by: ahansen | Dec 3, 2006 12:32:58 PM

These are digitally manipulated pictures from old books. Read the artist's (Hardy Burmeier) own explanation here: http://www.sparkasse-re.de/cms/media/relaunch_2006-03/ueber_uns/foerderung/kunstpreis_2000.pdf

Posted by: jukka | Dec 3, 2006 12:50:11 PM

Jukka-- give it up. I'm not downloading that viral PDF in that made-up gibberish language. Now you guys are just making up links to try to fool us into believing this ridiculous claim that these horses never existed-- I wasn't born yesterday.
This is so much like my dad and the "bag of ears" he used to make us go to sleep on Xmas eve, or when my older siblings would pretend to me that I was adopted.
Just because your cousins aren't really taking you on a snipe hunt doesn't mean snipes don't exist (as I later learned from my Audubon book).

Posted by: Charlotte | Dec 3, 2006 12:57:32 PM

Man. If the comments from the "debunkers" in this thread don't form the perfect "people too damn dreary to invite to ANY party," then such a list can't exist. Are there people who really take life that seriously?

Long live the long horse!

Posted by: Roger | Dec 3, 2006 5:48:25 PM

Roger,

True. We need to throw two parties. The doubters and those who know the truth.
I know which one I want to go to.

Posted by: testsicles | Dec 3, 2006 6:25:26 PM

can say, with absolute certainty, that these photographs are fakes. On the second photo (of the horse jumping down the bank) you can see no girth (which is a strap that acts as a belt, that keeps the saddle in place) and with no girth the there is no way the rider could stay in place over a jump that height. On the first photo the breed the of the horse leaping into the air is a lipizzaner. Lipizzaners were bread in Spain, and must be registered in order to be trained, in order to be able to perform a stunt like that. The point being, the Spanish Riding School would never register a horse that so clearly goes against the guidlines for the conformation of a lipizzaner.

Posted by: Annie | Dec 3, 2006 8:13:47 PM

But didn't the Viennese riding school under Franz Josef run under a separate system in the late 1880s, after Franz Karl blamed the Spanish mission in Salzburg for the Mayerling episode and cut ties? I think in that period their protocols were completely independent of the Spanish equestrian academy, no? I know I've seen other photos of Viennese long-Lipizzaners performing form the same era.

Posted by: Lucy | Dec 3, 2006 9:24:01 PM

What exactly is being discussed here? The authenticity of the photos or the existance (or post-existance) of long horses?

Concluded from the above, long horses did exist, but these photos are faked.

I would like to know from the people who have seen living longhorses, do they look comparable to these photos? I find it hard to believe that real horses were quite so exaggerated.

Posted by: Susan | Dec 3, 2006 9:50:43 PM

I think the address being "http://www.digital-art.org/" pretty much tells you in advance it's manipulated.

Posted by: Pandaemonium | Dec 4, 2006 3:23:24 AM

An even longer horse:
http://www.jonhs.com/temp/longhorse.jpg

Posted by: JonH | Dec 4, 2006 5:31:06 AM

My father tells me of an elderly member of his gentlemen's club whose ancestor was a footman to King George IV. In the early nineteenth century the King (then Prince of Wales) wagered that he could drive a coach and four down the notoriously steep Keere Street in Lewes, East Sussex. He got our friend's ancestor to hook up four long-horses, who, being so long that they stretched the entire length of the street, won him the bet! Hurrah for the longhorse!

Posted by: Dan | Dec 4, 2006 5:41:27 AM

Long horses are not real - they are the creation of the photo "curator" Hardy Burmeier. Here is a picture from Burmeier's site http://www.digital-art.org/D/Portraits/Burmeier/Bilder/LouisToomany.jpg
This is an actual picture from Gettysburg 1863 http://www.wpclipart.com/US_History/civil_war/Gettysburg_1863.png

Posted by: JaPe | Dec 4, 2006 6:25:45 AM

You are what is technically known as a "douchebag." Go back to bed.

Posted by: Chuck Norris | Dec 4, 2006 7:28:15 AM

Your mom won't let me sleep.

Posted by: JaPe | Dec 4, 2006 8:18:49 AM

The extinction of this amazing animal is further proof that global warming is killing our planet. These beautiful creatures were sucking in so much polluted air due to their expanded lungs that they killed themselves. Shame on us for allowing the state of the world to get so bad these creatures had to die! Shame! SHAME!

Posted by: Al Gore | Dec 4, 2006 9:33:29 AM

You'd think that with all these people claiming to have relitives who raised them in the earlt 20th century, that would throw the king cover up story out the window... humans killed off the dodo bird in 1681, yet stuffed ones and further evidence still exist. why would there be a "cover up" out of shame when we took direct action in destroying so many other species?

Posted by: pretorious | Dec 4, 2006 12:23:31 PM

nice site-would you consider reciprocal links?
bhb

Posted by: britt | Dec 4, 2006 1:01:19 PM

You "debunkers" do realize that you're trying to debunk people who are creating explanations about the long horse history enitrely out of thin air, don't you? I mean you're seriously trying to debunk the existence of long-horses? Ha ha ha.

They're reall allright, I have a long-horse vertebrae in my basement, all 172 pieces.

heh heh heh heh heh

Posted by: granthimarman | Dec 4, 2006 4:21:56 PM

Mmmmm, long pig. Reminds of the good ole days in south america.

Posted by: John | Dec 4, 2006 4:32:02 PM

Wow, so many doubters all sounding like, well, droll, whiny, small minded troglodytes. They existed, just deal with it.

I'm with Charles and Testicles, count me in for the Long Horse party, the one with the wimpering naysayers not believing would be duller than paint drying.

Posted by: Charles Marfin | Dec 4, 2006 4:39:16 PM

I once had a relationship with a long horse. It ended in tragedy and I cried as I was not, well, long enough for her... :(

Posted by: jingerfinger | Dec 4, 2006 8:17:26 PM

I do agree with agent420 on one thing, these majestic creatures are surely the work of god, not man. People goggling and destroying wikipedia in order to change the will of god, how dare you!

Posted by: dude | Dec 4, 2006 10:21:04 PM

I once saw a long horse that had died from an injury suggested above. over the years, the horse's digestive system had begun to weaken, not being able to push everything through the entire length of the horse. sadly that horse died like many doubters here exist, Full of shit.

Posted by: alfred packer | Dec 4, 2006 10:25:13 PM

Please provide a picture of a skeleton or some other /irrefutable/ evidence before you go and muck up wikipedia. Every suspected joke article makes it harder for people who really use it for research to make use of it. If you are doing this as a joke, grow up and shut up. Thank you

Posted by: skeptic | Dec 4, 2006 10:29:41 PM

I totally agree with sceptic. This is pathetic.

Posted by: me | Dec 5, 2006 3:56:54 AM

I also agree with pathetic. This is sceptic.

Posted by: Mr X | Dec 5, 2006 5:24:31 AM

All you Westerner think that internet is everything! In Kazakhstan internet is very bad, but we go to library! Here in City Library Almaty I look many year of micro film archive, here is many photograph of longhorse of course! Any child know that longhorse is real!! All old lady and gentleman remember longhorse is use in World-Wide War II, it is all gone now, this is very sad as it is well known National Treasure. Out in country all farm has many horse skeleton, normal size and long size, you can come and see. You can come here to my country and ask anyone if you don't believe!! Stupid!!!

Posted by: Boris Sokolev | Dec 5, 2006 6:06:57 AM

mister Stephen with the fodoschoppe sxLzorrz. you say you "can just tell" that the image was manipulated by looking at the repeating patterns in the grass.

I'm no expert, but I know that horses don't use toilets - they crap everywhere. it was just piles of longhorsecrap that were airbrushed out. oh i spose you'd rather look at that - disgusting.

Posted by: milkshake | Dec 5, 2006 11:09:39 AM

Annie - I hear that the bread in Spain is delicious.

And to whomever it was who said this, "that man would have needed a ladder to get on it," have you ever stood next to a Clydesdale? I assure you it is a horse that you would need a ladder in order to get on to it. In fact, I personally require a mounting block to get on even the most average of horses. That's not a valid argument against the existence of the Long Horse.

How did all of your 1950's minds get through the Post Modern era intact? I swear if I get stuck on that party list I'll just have to stay home and wash my hair that night.

Posted by: Laura | Dec 5, 2006 12:07:57 PM

I don't mean to be a troll, I just want to point some attention to what is going on in the outside world. a 19 year old struck and killed a cyclist /while downloading a ring tone/ yet she was only sentenced $1000 and 6 months probation (she gets to keep her driving privileges)

http://www.chicagoist.com/archives/2006/12/05/for_whom_the_ring_tones.php

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/courts_crime_fire/2006/11/30/woman_is_sentenced_for_bicyclists_death

I know this is off topic Robyn, maybe you could make a new blog entry about it?

Posted by: pretorious | Dec 5, 2006 8:41:45 PM

It is sadly a forgotten fact that the true meaning of "hung like a horse" really referred to the long horse breed.

Posted by: Frank | Dec 5, 2006 8:44:55 PM

Long horses do exist. How do I know?

I am a long horse, over 22 feet from nose to tail. Like all long horses I have a gentle and charming demeanor. Like all long horses I'm able to speak and also type (in several languages). I also posess the capability of flight demonstrated by the long horse in the photograph at the top of this page.

Posted by: Marvo | Dec 7, 2006 6:02:50 PM

In high school my father worked at the long horse corset factory in Lowell, MA - he saved his paychecks from that job to buy his first car, a 1961 Austin-Healey 3000. He said that nothing is more painful than a whale-bone splinter! Can you imagine?! I guess the factory employed lots of young people, who were more dexterous and could guide the whale bones through the swen channels of the corsets. But the factory closed in the late 60's and then he enlisted in the National Guard so he wouldn't have to go to 'Nam. So are all you people who say long horses never existed calling my father a liar?!

Posted by: Sadie | Dec 8, 2006 7:58:36 AM

A Long Horse walks into a saloon and the bartender says,"Why the long face?"

Posted by: AntzInnerPantz | Dec 8, 2006 3:51:42 PM

Uh Anyone ELSE Notice in the first picture the horses in the background are not longhorses, furthermore that is obviously a lipizanner, also on the dauschund/horse mix comment, it wouldn't be able to breed if that happened. ALso The animals back would snap if a human sat upon it, theses are obviously fakes. ALSO they did not have photomanipulative programs back then, so therefore the originals couldn't have been edited. The horses size also varies with the picture, OBVIOUS fakes

Posted by: Annette | Dec 8, 2006 7:32:06 PM

I live in Lowell, MA and I actually live in the former long horse corset factory. The city converted the mills in the downtown area into yuppie lofts that are pretty awesome, but alas no signs of long horses anywhere.

Posted by: laura | Dec 9, 2006 6:59:23 PM

Lol. I find it hilarious that some of you find it necesary to try and disprove this.

Posted by: Cheesepuff | Dec 10, 2006 10:05:05 AM

I have an actual photograph, has NOT been tampered with, of a "Miniature" Long Horse. How do I post it?

Posted by: Libby | Dec 13, 2006 4:21:40 PM

Oh Annette, Annette, Annette... I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around the long horse (metaphorically speaking of course). I weep for you and others, I'm sure your type still think the world is flat and this whole "globe" thing is just a hoax. I weep for your type who are so assured of what's real and what's not.

Posted by: Jeff Heskins | Dec 14, 2006 12:24:43 PM

German artist Hardy Burmeier created the idea of the long horse for his 2001 work Le Grand Louis, a collection of historical photographs of horses which had been digitally manipulated to exhibit unnaturally extended torsos.

An online version of this work was linked to by BoingBoing in November 2006, leading to the creation of further long horse images by its readers, and the hoax suggestion that these horses genuinely existed.

Posted by: Heavydpj | Dec 17, 2006 5:05:10 AM

LOL Yeah right -.- I know more about horses than most people here... obviously more than those long-horse beleivers.... a daushund/horse mix would be impossible, and if it WAS possible.... the animal would be a hybrid and couldn't breed. And my other points are true as well << Longhorses would not be able to jump like that.... And I KNOW the world is a globe idiot <<

Posted by: Annette | Dec 21, 2006 5:32:19 AM

see this site... it is about Gymnastics - Men's Pommelled Horse from past olympics

http://users.skynet.be/hermandw/olymp/spgymmph.html

and in 1904 in St. Louis, there is category for Long Horse

Posted by: boult | Dec 22, 2006 3:01:36 AM

Annette saith: "I know more about horses than most people here... obviously more than those long-horse beleivers.... a daushund/horse mix would be impossible, and if it WAS possible.... the animal would be a hybrid and couldn't breed. And my other points are true as well."

Of course it's possible - we have photographic proof!

Posted by: Pi | Dec 22, 2006 9:08:11 PM

These are obvious manipulations. Why is every long horse 'photographed' missing its penis?

Posted by: Oops | Dec 22, 2006 11:14:16 PM

Oops: Most longhorses had to be castrated due to the excessive length and weight of their penis. Another reason man doomed this breed...

Posted by: agent420 | Jan 3, 2007 9:26:59 AM

Actually, for picture #2, the horse would've broken it's back, and for the

As I stated in my earlier comment here, [long horses] do exist and Wikipedia now finally seconds that. So, unbelievers, will you finally relent, or must you first step into long horse poop to see?

comment, wikipedia never writes thheir stuff with proof, people from around the world add the stuff onto the site, so it's till not proof, and I know that piictures not real. I believe the sister, as I am a horse fanatic myself.

Posted by: The Smart One | Jan 5, 2007 3:42:02 PM

Oh Annette, Annette, Annette... I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around the long horse (metaphorically speaking of course). I weep for you and others, I'm sure your type still think the world is flat and this whole "globe" thing is just a hoax. I weep for your type who are so assured of what's real and what's not.
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Jeff, I don't see any proof here, and we're not a "type". You're just to naive and stupid to know any better. But don't worry, "our type" forgive you. :]

Posted by: The Smart One | Jan 5, 2007 3:45:19 PM

Lol. I find it hilarious that some of you find it necesary to try and disprove this.
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Yea, it's really not worth our time guys and gals. Their "type" will figure it out on their own! ^^

Posted by: The Smart One | Jan 5, 2007 3:48:27 PM

you know, it doesn't matter if the horse dose exist or not, you can't really jump to any conclusion instantly. just rember that they said the same things about mountain gorillas, Giant pandas, giant squid and a whole lot of Austarliain Marsupials which infact DO exist. also if they are fake (i'm quite sure if you think you are expert photoshop people I sugest you look a little bit harder at the picture qualitys. I'm a Grapic designer so I can tell the differnce, but i'm just wondering can any of you?)you shouldn't doubt their existance.

Posted by: kylie hajdu | Jan 8, 2007 1:36:30 AM

wow you guys are retarded if you're believing that, look at the pictures on the website given with the large collection especially at the saddles for multiple people compare the seats for each person they're exactly i dentifal in position and everything, it's simple to do just copy and paste

Posted by: Megan | Feb 28, 2007 11:52:03 AM

If you guys havent noticed, all those horse pictures have been taking from far away. Its all photoshop. And if they were real they would be in museums and in all kinds of books along with all those cenatars and unicorns and pegasauses. Its soo fake. They cant be real cuz no animal can support a body like that and how in the world could a horse carry 5 people on a back that thin and long? Its impossible, the back would break. Its all a load of bull crap.

Posted by: Hayon Shin | Mar 15, 2007 6:51:01 AM

Okay everyone. How could any of you doubt that these wonderful beasts existed?

In fact, I've been to some areas in the midwest where there are still stories of long horses roaming free.

I think that we should be more concerned in SAVING these gentle giants. I swear that they're not extinct.

The Native Americans have all sorts of stories about white men bringing in "ehim kaye" roughly translated long beasts.

Only a fool would deny their existance.

Please SAVE the beautiful long horses roaming the midwest!

Posted by: Joseph | Jun 9, 2007 11:35:31 AM

I cannot believe that this has gone on for as long as it did. There is no doubt in my mind that these creatures are fake. Pictures can easily be modified, and lies can be given, as well as stories made up on the spot for the specific tale. Some Canadians do it all the time for the less than intelligent American who believe we live in igloos.

Reasons why this creature can not exsist.
1. The pictures are fake. There is proof of that.
2. The anatomy of the horse is impossible. As mensioned before, the sheer weight of the body compared to the far apart legs are impossible. The horse would bend over backwards like a mouse trap. Its spine would snap, and that would be the end.
3. There is no scientific proof that these creatures exsist. Where are the bones? Where are the books and scientific ravings about these creatures if they were real? If there are no bones, then there is no creature. And don't act as though WW2 people would hide them. For what reason now that all of the horses are dead and the war was over? Certainly not for the cold war since there were no direct battles. There needs to be more evidence than just old black and white photos.

Even controversy on Nessie has been on TV. Never heard of a "Long-horse" until now.

Posted by: Brheanna | Jul 2, 2007 3:25:48 AM

These pictures look very strnge indeed but I think we shouldn't say something is impossible unless we're biologists or some other experts of the kind. Take cats for example. There are so many breeds and so many mixes of these breeds that the combinations possible are too many to be known by notspecialists. It could be the same with hoarses, not to mention extinct breeds:)

Posted by: Monica Nickoles | Jul 12, 2007 6:19:05 AM

This is a complete disgrace to horses! Why are you toying with the worlds most beautiful creatures by saying these so called long horses existed? A complete outrage! Whats next? LONG model horses?

Posted by: Krystell | Jul 27, 2007 6:03:55 PM

anzal

Posted by: fahad anzal | Jul 28, 2007 1:41:42 AM

anzal

Posted by: fahad anzal | Jul 28, 2007 1:46:30 AM

These are not extinct. The are quite common in Norway. As a matter of fact one of my pupils in elementary school just got a long horse for christmas. We're taking the whole class to see it next wednesday.

Posted by: Frode | Jan 6, 2008 4:02:48 PM

Lange Pferde zu totlachen. Heut zu Tage würde das gleich den Tierschutz auf den Plan rufen.

Posted by: Martin Enzenhoefer | Mar 5, 2008 12:04:44 AM

This is a cute web page. Those photomanipulations are fantastic. I am very well acquainted with the actual photos from which these images were created. At least one, that of the horse sliding down the cliff face, can be found in the book The Noble Horse. Comparing them side by side, I must bow to your skill in creating such convincing distortions.

As for any actual "long horse" breed as presented here, it does not, has never, and physically cannot exist. It is physiologically impossible. I almost feel sorry for any fools that believe it might be true. Some people will believe anything they see, even when applying a little simple logic would allow them to see through the illusion in an instant.

Posted by: Silvermare | Mar 8, 2008 12:36:57 AM

the guy who "was in the army in 1944 in Italy" is lying.
mortadella is not made with horse meat(i know this because i have lived in italy and love mortadella). that shows his ignorance. also photoshop your photos better, make them look more real

Posted by: Marco | Mar 11, 2008 1:57:41 AM

That long dog is a german shepherd, I own 2 of them and was also a member of the GSDC for a few years and have never ever seen one that long and also the sway back that a normal horse gets as it ages can be bad enough but imagine how bad the sway back would be on a horse like this, there’s no way these horses could have as straight backs as they do if they were real carrying so many people. You see when a person rides a horse the weight is distributed on the wither and first half of the horses backand the girth is tied just behind the front legs, if the saddle were further back then the horse would most definately develop back problems. I agree with timetheif I too am an experienced horse preson having ridden and been around and trained horses for 30 years and i’ve never heard of such a thing. so what gives? also Annie is right the head on that grey is most deffinately a Lippizaner doing a capriole, I have been on a horse that has perfomed this move and firstly the horse rounds itself off and crouches down, raising its forehand right up and then uses it’s powerful hind quaters to propelle itself into the air, there is no way in hell that a horse that long in the body could do this it could not balance itself properly and as for the pic of the horse with it’s forelegs at the bottom of the cliff and it’s hind legs at the top, wel i’m not even going to begin to tell you what is wrong with that shot, it is obviously a fraud.Also FYI why do all the saddles look the same in the pics i've seen and some of the horses heads are shaped differently to the others quite a bit, generally horses of the same breed generally have the same head shape, it''s common knoweledge amost horse people it's a good way to tell certain breeds apart that have similar body types.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 18, 2008 5:24:49 AM

# words people
CRAP! CORRUPTION!! & BULLSHIT!!!

Posted by: Sam | Mar 19, 2008 3:59:19 AM

The long horse that Frode is talking about is probably a standardbred they can be quite long in the body I saw one back in the 80's that belonged to a friend of ours it was long and had the flattish back but it was nothing like the horses in these fake pictures, this is so hilarious folks I can't believe anyone would by into this drivwl.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 19, 2008 4:04:44 AM

when i see a long horse i will believe it.

yes, there are horses with long backs, which suffer from progressive weakness in virtually all cases - i have known and ridden one myself, before he was retired from ridden work because of back problems.

he was a TB x, so by my reasoning if a "normal" horse ie not a "long horse" suffered so with a long back (he's not the only one of course, but is the only one i have known personally), then imagine the problems that a long horse would encounter.

i have no previous knowlege of "long horses", so i am not implying that they are in fact a hoax, but these pictures are horrifyingly obviously faked, and so are claims that "It was strong, handsome and could carry up to four people at one time"

there is no way that a horse with such a long back could support such a weight.
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Posted by: your mother | Apr 2, 2008 4:52:37 PM

I love all types of animals & extinct ones to. I would have loved to see the long horse in real life!but i know its extinct and I will always remember it.

Posted by: spencerproracer08 | Apr 13, 2008 10:34:24 AM

this is soooooo fake i cant believe you managed to tot so many people to belive this!!! ive found all the pictures that have been streched before they were streched. you can tell by the picture with the dog in it the dog is also streched. you doyle.

Posted by: lucy | Apr 23, 2008 6:12:02 AM

what a load of shite some people have far to much time! im a student and not had that much experiance with horses but im studyin them at college and even i can see that this person has made them up thick shits!

Posted by: jess | Apr 23, 2008 6:48:22 AM

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Posted by: wulan | Aug 19, 2008 12:56:56 AM

I thought this was supposed to be a joke but people seem to be taking it seriously. Okay here is something pretty obvious look at the horses the only thing consistant is the long back however nothing else pretty much. The white jumping horse is a Lippizaner the horse below is probably a thorobred or some warmblood.Looking at other photos you can see where the photo was warped. For this horse to exist would need lots of inbreeding which is why they would have consistant features in head shape, neck, legs, tail carriage, and so on but they only really share the distinct characteristic of a long back. Also for such a large animal to have a long back like that I doubt would live into adulthood. Horses with long backs are prone to getting a sway back in which the horses midsection sags so a horse with this length would be crawling on their belleis. Doxons get away with having that long stomach because they are small and dont carry anyone anyways the horse would have a weak back that sags. Just putting that out there for people who are taking this seriously. If you want to see something out of the ordinary look up the Marwari they have naturally turned in ears. Sometimes I see this in Arabians though not as extreme and like their ears slightly turned in.

Posted by: Francesca | Nov 29, 2008 10:39:11 AM

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