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July 26, 2005

Awaiting Cryptid DNA


Oh, don't you just love it when a cryptid makes the international news? Scientists (yes, real scientists) are genetically testing hairs said to be from none other than Bigfoot. Could this actually be the one, the only, the terrible and rare Sasquatch? Stay tuned to the BBC as we all await the earth-shattering results.

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Not sure if you're being really sarcastic with that first sentence, but, I'll sound off.

This is almost certainly fur from a non-primate mammal. Sorry. (The article is also almost certainly written by journalists/editors who get their science from coloring books.)

For real science about real primates (for a general audience), check out National Geographic's article on them in the April 2005 issue. That John Gurche painting of _H. florensis_ and the ora is worth the price of admission ALONE.


(Looked for an internet version of that painting, but couldn't find one.

(It really does, though, totally remind me of Charles Knight's paintings crossed with B-movie hollywood.

(And all the sweeter for being _real_.)

Posted by: Scott Elyard | Jul 27, 2005 10:50:29 PM

Whup. Forgot to quote Allingham up there:

Up the airy mountain,
down the rushy glen
we daren't go a-hunting,
for fear of little men.
--The Fairies

Posted by: Scott Elyard | Jul 27, 2005 11:04:16 PM

Well, Scott, were you aware that the many of the great scientists of yesteryear were part of secret society - a very covert underground society? Handshakes and all. Einstein, Bohr, Planck, Tesla, Schrodinger, and a number of others were some of the elite few who were privileged enough to be proud members of the R.S.G.S.S.C.S.A. (the Really Smart Guys Super Secret Cryptozoological Society of America). Their stated goal – to put their brain power together in an effort to discover and unveil the vast host of rumored cryptids! Unfortunately, most of these scientists were very busy and so they never had much success with this cryptid thing. However, the society did manage to stumble upon the coelacanth, and covertly released information about it to the world. Coloring-book science indeed!

Incidentally, there are only two members of this society left. Steven Hawking and yours truly. Stevie does nothing but talk about "blackhole" this and "blackhole" that. I'm not even sure who invited him into the society in the first place. Meanwhile, I'm on a search for a extremely rare cryptid. So rare I can't even talk about it... (sort of like the Magnum look in Zoolander).

Posted by: Robyn | Jul 28, 2005 10:26:46 AM

Also, to see the painting of bigfoot (above), just click on the image.

Posted by: Robyn | Jul 28, 2005 10:28:45 AM

"Einstein, Bohr, Planck, Tesla, Schrodinger"

None of whom happen to be biolgists, I can't help but note. I'm not a biologist either, but I do know a small bit about biology (whether this knowledge is substantial or substantially small I'll leave to your judgement).

I bring that up only because science history is loaded with examples of experts talking outside their chosen fields of study, with confusion being the rather unfortunate result.

I don't recall the Coelacanth as being a cryptozoology success per se, since actual specimens were directly involved in its discovery. (In any case, the notion that the Coelacanth is a changless organism through deep time is sort of a myth (as is the idea of the "living fossil" --unfortunate terminology, but possibly appropriate to the bacteria that have been revivified from ancient amber). Morphologically, _Latimeria chalumnae_ and _Latimeria menadoensis_ (the extant Coelacanths) are very similar to the extinct cousins, but _Latimeria_ didn't have any fossil record--_Latermeria_ is a new Genus, not an old one.

The one legitimate cryptozoology success that I can think of is the ora (Komodo dragon). Some history on that, which is great reading (or would be, if the text wasn't so small):


Man, this image is _effective_:

And something about this picture makes me think of Beowulf. (Or possibly Grendel. Or possibly _The 13th Warrior_):

Creepy, yet disturbing. Richard Corben apparently rules.


I still can't find that painting anywhere on the web, but I did find that John Gurche has a website:


Well, I've probably wasted enough of your time for today. Sorry about that. Gotta get back to work, anyhow.

Posted by: Scott Elyard | Jul 28, 2005 1:55:17 PM


Do you really think that R.S.G.S.S.C.S.A. would allow mere biologists into its midst? It was already a stretch to let Tesla in, but he drew up a really nice sign for main meeting room – after that, how could we possibly have turned him away? Plus, we were sort of curious to see what would happen when we ran about 100,000,000 volts of his Tesla-coil electricity through our Coelacanth specimen. Talk about spectacular! Wow. I mean, it was raining coelacanth! Even Neils Bohr was impressed (how could he not have been?)!

By the way, I don't remember who it was, but one of the Association's members began petitioning for Sea Monster Postage Stamps. The tradition he started lives on...


Posted by: Robyn | Jul 28, 2005 5:04:05 PM

"Do you really think that R.S.G.S.S.C.S.A. would allow mere biologists into its midst?"

Question is, would biologists really want to associate with known philatelers?

Sigh. That link reminds me of the stamp album for space exploration and fantasy stamps I used to have (daikaiju included).

Makes me wish I still had my stamp collection. (Wow. Now there's a sentence you don't hear every day.)

Posted by: Scott Elyard | Jul 29, 2005 1:36:22 AM

Give da paleontologist-wannabe a praiiiize:


Posted by: Scott Elyard | Jul 29, 2005 11:10:34 AM

Many people will not accept the possibility that a north american primate still exists.. I know they do..I have seen one ! And I am studying some very interesting evidence in northern Ontario Canada

Posted by: G W Ramsden | Apr 27, 2008 7:16:04 PM

Researching bigfoot is about many things.. It's about spending time in our great outdoors.. it's about spending time with your family and friends.. And finally,it's about finding bigfoot..Sometimes the Journey is worth more than the catch

Posted by: Bigfoot Researcher | May 29, 2008 10:44:33 AM

An undiscovered tribe of man has been found in Peru.. This is fantastic.. So if it's possible for them to be living beside the civilized world and only found now..Why then is it so difficult for people to believe that a large primate could be doing the same.. Hmmmmm

Posted by: Bigfoot Researcher | Jun 3, 2008 7:09:22 PM

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